<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><!-- generator="wordpress/2.2" -->
<rss version="2.0" 
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/">
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Blog Commenting Tips Are Utterly Ridiculous</title>
	<link>http://bloggingfingers.com/blog-marketing/blog-commenting-tips-are-utterly-ridiculous/</link>
	<description>Blogging ideas, tips, creativity and money making strategies for blogs</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2</generator>

	<item>
		<title>By: Matt Jones</title>
		<link>http://bloggingfingers.com/blog-marketing/blog-commenting-tips-are-utterly-ridiculous/#comment-10582</link>
		<author>Matt Jones</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 08:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://bloggingfingers.com/blog-marketing/blog-commenting-tips-are-utterly-ridiculous/#comment-10582</guid>
		<description>In that case I look at who left it and what their sites URL is.  If it has been marked as spam by Aksimet it probably isn't any good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In that case I look at who left it and what their sites URL is.  If it has been marked as spam by Aksimet it probably isn&#8217;t any good.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Matt Jones</title>
		<link>http://bloggingfingers.com/blog-marketing/blog-commenting-tips-are-utterly-ridiculous/#comment-10581</link>
		<author>Matt Jones</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 08:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://bloggingfingers.com/blog-marketing/blog-commenting-tips-are-utterly-ridiculous/#comment-10581</guid>
		<description>Yes ultimately its up to the blogger to make the choice, but the top-commentor plugin rewards most regular commentor, not necessarily the one who comments with the highest number of words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes ultimately its up to the blogger to make the choice, but the top-commentor plugin rewards most regular commentor, not necessarily the one who comments with the highest number of words.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Matt Jones</title>
		<link>http://bloggingfingers.com/blog-marketing/blog-commenting-tips-are-utterly-ridiculous/#comment-10580</link>
		<author>Matt Jones</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 08:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://bloggingfingers.com/blog-marketing/blog-commenting-tips-are-utterly-ridiculous/#comment-10580</guid>
		<description>"But what *is* the purpose of comments? I think it has to be a way to add value to the *conversation*"

I don't think it's even as profound as that, its just a way for readers to respond in whatever way they want to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But what *is* the purpose of comments? I think it has to be a way to add value to the *conversation*&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s even as profound as that, its just a way for readers to respond in whatever way they want to.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Srdjan Stankovic</title>
		<link>http://bloggingfingers.com/blog-marketing/blog-commenting-tips-are-utterly-ridiculous/#comment-10567</link>
		<author>Srdjan Stankovic</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 18:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://bloggingfingers.com/blog-marketing/blog-commenting-tips-are-utterly-ridiculous/#comment-10567</guid>
		<description>Matt, you probably receive comments like this "I just want to say that I really enjoy reading your posts. Best regards...". Aksimet marks this as a spam comment. There are two options:
- the comment is written by someone who likes your blog
- the comment is pasted from clipboard, person who wrote that comment sends same comments to other blogs in order to receive traffic.
Well, this comment can be treated as spam, because it is not useful for other readers, it is not related to subject of your post and it will not initiate any conversation. But, it is also a polite spam, and if you just started blogging it is nice to see that someone actually visited your blog. That's the reason why I approved similar comment on my blog. But when you receive many comments you need to be more selective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, you probably receive comments like this &#8220;I just want to say that I really enjoy reading your posts. Best regards&#8230;&#8221;. Aksimet marks this as a spam comment. There are two options:<br />
- the comment is written by someone who likes your blog<br />
- the comment is pasted from clipboard, person who wrote that comment sends same comments to other blogs in order to receive traffic.<br />
Well, this comment can be treated as spam, because it is not useful for other readers, it is not related to subject of your post and it will not initiate any conversation. But, it is also a polite spam, and if you just started blogging it is nice to see that someone actually visited your blog. That&#8217;s the reason why I approved similar comment on my blog. But when you receive many comments you need to be more selective.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mohsin</title>
		<link>http://bloggingfingers.com/blog-marketing/blog-commenting-tips-are-utterly-ridiculous/#comment-10559</link>
		<author>Mohsin</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 07:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://bloggingfingers.com/blog-marketing/blog-commenting-tips-are-utterly-ridiculous/#comment-10559</guid>
		<description>Right on Matt. I don't really mind one-liners as long as they are not spam.

If a reader wants to add value to the discussion, cool. But if they only want to let me know that they found the post useful or funny, they are also most welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on Matt. I don&#8217;t really mind one-liners as long as they are not spam.</p>
<p>If a reader wants to add value to the discussion, cool. But if they only want to let me know that they found the post useful or funny, they are also most welcome.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ramona Iftode</title>
		<link>http://bloggingfingers.com/blog-marketing/blog-commenting-tips-are-utterly-ridiculous/#comment-10546</link>
		<author>Ramona Iftode</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://bloggingfingers.com/blog-marketing/blog-commenting-tips-are-utterly-ridiculous/#comment-10546</guid>
		<description>I think it's all a matter of perspective: I am a small blogger, my project gets few comments, I am still working on promoting it and maybe draw in some more people who'd be interested in my work.

For me any comment (as long as it's not utter spam or swearing) is just great. For this I have the top commentators plugin and I am happy to see people come and comment and why not, battle for that top spot.

Still, after the blog is growing, so do the expectations for the commenters. The blogger knows his/her blog is already a source of potential good traffic for the commenters and this makes some be more willing to diss anyone who's not getting into their quality limits they set now, since at first any comment was good comment. 

It's something like "equality, but not for all". I know some comments that are too short might be a tad frustrating since you'd expect some info, but as you said, maybe it's just a visitor who's pleased to read a good article and wanted you to know that. On the other hand, getting on the top list means that innocent visitor kinda knows the drill of the top commenters and was on a posting spree. 

Maybe some guidelines would be good for such bloggers who want more quality commenting. I assume I'd do this too, if a normal comment wouldn't suffice anymore. Don't know .. never was in this position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s all a matter of perspective: I am a small blogger, my project gets few comments, I am still working on promoting it and maybe draw in some more people who&#8217;d be interested in my work.</p>
<p>For me any comment (as long as it&#8217;s not utter spam or swearing) is just great. For this I have the top commentators plugin and I am happy to see people come and comment and why not, battle for that top spot.</p>
<p>Still, after the blog is growing, so do the expectations for the commenters. The blogger knows his/her blog is already a source of potential good traffic for the commenters and this makes some be more willing to diss anyone who&#8217;s not getting into their quality limits they set now, since at first any comment was good comment. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s something like &#8220;equality, but not for all&#8221;. I know some comments that are too short might be a tad frustrating since you&#8217;d expect some info, but as you said, maybe it&#8217;s just a visitor who&#8217;s pleased to read a good article and wanted you to know that. On the other hand, getting on the top list means that innocent visitor kinda knows the drill of the top commenters and was on a posting spree. </p>
<p>Maybe some guidelines would be good for such bloggers who want more quality commenting. I assume I&#8217;d do this too, if a normal comment wouldn&#8217;t suffice anymore. Don&#8217;t know .. never was in this position.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Dustin</title>
		<link>http://bloggingfingers.com/blog-marketing/blog-commenting-tips-are-utterly-ridiculous/#comment-10543</link>
		<author>Dustin</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 17:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://bloggingfingers.com/blog-marketing/blog-commenting-tips-are-utterly-ridiculous/#comment-10543</guid>
		<description>I think you're only kind of right, here. First of all, Caroline seems to have been commenting on what is wrong with the strategy of building trafic through leaving inane comments. SHe's clear that she rarely deletes comments, even short ones -- but the comments she highlights clearly were *not* just drive-by compliments. 

I think you're right about the purpose of the top commenters plugin, though I'm sure we'd all much rather it functioned simply to reward authentic commenters, rather than people trying to "get to the top" by any means necessary. Still, it was probably a mistake to assume that it *would* work the way we'd *like* it to work -- and in the comments at Middlebrook's blog, there's a healthy discussion about that. 

Beyond that, there's a deeper issue. I think you're right that the purpose of comments is not to provide value to other readers. But what *is* the purpose of comments? I think it has to be a way to add value to the *conversation*. We could let people tell us "you look nice today" with a much simpler mechanism than commenting, without opening our sites up to the threats of spam, flame wars, etc., by just putting up a digg-like button. Every click would be a "Good advice" registered and appreciated. 

I'm not sure it's too high a bar to expect thoughtful responses in comments. I think it shows a pretty healthy respect for readers to say "Here you go, have your say -- I expect it will be something thoughtful, because I know my readers are smart, thoughtful people."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re only kind of right, here. First of all, Caroline seems to have been commenting on what is wrong with the strategy of building trafic through leaving inane comments. SHe&#8217;s clear that she rarely deletes comments, even short ones &#8212; but the comments she highlights clearly were *not* just drive-by compliments. </p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re right about the purpose of the top commenters plugin, though I&#8217;m sure we&#8217;d all much rather it functioned simply to reward authentic commenters, rather than people trying to &#8220;get to the top&#8221; by any means necessary. Still, it was probably a mistake to assume that it *would* work the way we&#8217;d *like* it to work &#8212; and in the comments at Middlebrook&#8217;s blog, there&#8217;s a healthy discussion about that. </p>
<p>Beyond that, there&#8217;s a deeper issue. I think you&#8217;re right that the purpose of comments is not to provide value to other readers. But what *is* the purpose of comments? I think it has to be a way to add value to the *conversation*. We could let people tell us &#8220;you look nice today&#8221; with a much simpler mechanism than commenting, without opening our sites up to the threats of spam, flame wars, etc., by just putting up a digg-like button. Every click would be a &#8220;Good advice&#8221; registered and appreciated. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s too high a bar to expect thoughtful responses in comments. I think it shows a pretty healthy respect for readers to say &#8220;Here you go, have your say &#8212; I expect it will be something thoughtful, because I know my readers are smart, thoughtful people.&#8221;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Keith Goodrum</title>
		<link>http://bloggingfingers.com/blog-marketing/blog-commenting-tips-are-utterly-ridiculous/#comment-10536</link>
		<author>Keith Goodrum</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://bloggingfingers.com/blog-marketing/blog-commenting-tips-are-utterly-ridiculous/#comment-10536</guid>
		<description>Matt,

I agree with you about the top commentator plugin.  It's a way to reward people for placing comments.  It doesn't have a filter in place for judging the quality of the comments, just the number.

Using the plugin essentially sets up a contest, and the most comments win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,</p>
<p>I agree with you about the top commentator plugin.  It&#8217;s a way to reward people for placing comments.  It doesn&#8217;t have a filter in place for judging the quality of the comments, just the number.</p>
<p>Using the plugin essentially sets up a contest, and the most comments win.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
